I think Tim would-be send the fresh goes through of photo in order to their site, and will blog post one relationship to the fresh new newsgroup.
Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Hands
associations of one’s professionals, (the new Wingfields was investigated rather well, and even after my personal typo on Howard friends, I actually do feel the pedigree precisely annotated here in RI) >>
I’m not sure this will be an exact declaration. Do the guide target the newest generation *prior* in order to John Russell exactly who elizabeth mom and dad regarding Age Russell just who meters Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn wife regarding Malise
I’ve another so you’re able to fill in some of the openings your let you know forthe high-grandparents of Reginald le Cheyne. One of many primaryadditions comes from his paternal grandma (NN on the blog post) havingbeen Mary de- Moravia (als de- Moray), cousin and you may coheiress regarding Freskinde Moravia off Duffus (her mothers Walter de- Moravia and you can Euphemia ofRoss are available below). You’ve got the concern regarding marrying a belarus lady their maternalgrandmother: We hold she is Joanna de Menteith, second spouse regarding Malise,Earl of Strathearn. This will at least give an almost explanationfor Joanna’s daughter Helen out-of Strathearn (wife successively ofReginald le Cheyne, the daddy, as well as Sir David de Graham) beingnamed having Helen de- Menteith, aunt off Joanna and you can wife off Sir ColinCampbell out of Lochow (d. bef Could possibly get 1343).
Regrettably, I think you will find added gaps when you look at the Muriel Keith’sancestry (look for less than). Regarding often enhancements proposed into the tablesbelow, delight indicates of every detailed problems, otherwise exactly what documentationmight imply any error detailed.
We have openings in both ancestries, but ferociously where out of Reginald.For Muriel Keith, their particular high-grandparents We show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I’m not familiar with any documents supporting the identity of the mate given that Barbara Seton. For those who have listed people, excite indicates.
3 Alexander de- Synton4 NN5 Alexander of /Fraser/ Chamberlain out of Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser partnered Mary Bruce (otherwise de- Brus), together with an effective young man John recognized as ‘nepos’ out-of Robert _the_Bruce. Which son is a younger John, although not, rather than his heir. John Fraser, later lord from Aboyne, is actually the brand new young man out of an initial relationships (this spouse unfamiliar; I have that it to the authority off Andrew MacEwen).
step 3 Walter de Moravia (son out-of Hugh de- Moravia, and you will Annabela off Fife) cuatro Euphemia out of Ross (dau. off Fearchar, first Earl out of Ross and you can NN deBrus)
5 Malise, 6th Earl out of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN possibly Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de- Menteith (young buck regarding Walter Stewart, Age from Menteith and
The consanguinity ranging from Muriel Keith and you will Reginald ce Cheyne -recognized to have been an effective-grandson out of Malise, Earl of Strathearn (d.1312) – is the just evidence (if the indirect) why these one or two individualshad at least one predecessor/ancestress in keeping.
I have holes both in ancestries, but fiercely in this off Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their own great-grand-parents I show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander from /Fraser/ Chamberlain out of Scotland d 3 Aug 13326 Mary de Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN
Getting Reginald le Cheney it is sparse1 NN Cheney , dos NN, step 3 NN, cuatro NN5 Malise, sixth Earl out of /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN maybe Comyn d aft 13097 and 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, very early 15the century, inside Leicestershire. E was the brand new d Villiers and you can Agnes Beler. Today, I wish to connect Agnes in order to Sir Roger Beler, killed of the Eustace de Folville, however, I can not look for people facts about their own. Normally someone let?